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Lonny
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""by the way, check out "RegSeeker" it is free and finds even more dead entries than jv16 ever did . And it is FREE!!!
http://www.webattack.com/get/regseeker.shtml (216kb)""
Regseeker broke my windows setup , so if you use it check aferwards ,also check addremove and your windows help system , system info to.
atleast on a windows ME PC OEM HP.
Its a problem for us to aford even 29$ so >JV maybe 10 would be more appropriate for home use licencess
But anyway thanks for letting us us it so far 
Gee you closed this thred Im still composing ,,see if it will show
Nope it didnt ,,that was the RC thred
Thanks Lonny
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Total Posts: 6 | Joined May 2003 | Posted on: 12:36 pm on July 18, 2003 | IP
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Tom121
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Well, regseeker worked fine for me (Windows 2000) and I deleted every entry. On the old page of jv16.org there was a comparison between jv16 and other programs (like regseeker) and it found every single entry exactly as jv16 did, it also didn't delete any valid entries (like jv16).
The author of jv16 did this test by himself! Unfortunately the old content is completely gone and I don't think the forum will be up for long either
Regarding jv16 final release: What happened to the icons? I mean it looks like if someone just used the black & white ones and stained them! I mean I'm pretty good at graphics and even the fact that is has stained it looks miserable!
@jv16
If you send the icons to me, I'll do my best to make them look better!
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Total Posts: 51 | Joined May 2003 | Posted on: 1:29 pm on July 18, 2003 | IP
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Tom121
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Quote: from Lonny on 12:36 pm on July 18, 2003
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Its a problem for us to aford even 29$ so >JV maybe 10 would be more appropriate for home use licencess
But anyway thanks for letting us us it so far
Well, I already said something to this in the 11 pages thread, which is now closed. The only thing that is lame is the fact that jv16 intentionally lied to us! How was it again? Jv16 has only a 30 day limitation because he doesn't want to be bothered with bug reports that consist in older releases? And the funny part is that jv16 assured that it'll be free after all! I always found it a little suspicious that some thread were 'lost' because of the buggy forum software...but after all there was no intention to replace this forum by another one...
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Total Posts: 51 | Joined May 2003 | Posted on: 1:48 pm on July 18, 2003 | IP
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jv16 
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"And the funny part is that jv16 assured that it'll be free after all!"
Could you show us where exactly I have said such thing?
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Total Posts: 1044 | Joined Oct. 2001 | Posted on: 1:53 pm on July 18, 2003 | IP
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Tom121
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Well, unfortunately I can't find the thread anymore. I think it is the forum software though. But you made that statement for sure; it was in one of the threads where people were wondering about the 30 day limitation and if they have to pay for it after this period. The answer was that you would still get bug reports by people who still stuck with older releases and since these bugs are already resolved there is no point in it and you simply wanted to avoid that.
(Edited by Tom121 at 2:30 pm on July 18, 2003)
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Total Posts: 51 | Joined May 2003 | Posted on: 2:29 pm on July 18, 2003 | IP
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Limerick
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I don't want to argue for or against paying for PT, but I must say that I did understand jv16 the same way Tom121 did.
It might be a mis understood, but I remember jv16 saying something like that.
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Total Posts: 15 | Joined May 2003 | Posted on: 4:59 pm on July 18, 2003 | IP
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DooGie
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Whether or not Jouni lied to us all about Power Tools remaining freeware doesn't bother me in the slightest. I have personally used and beta tested Jouni's programs for at least a couple of years (since the early days of Registry Cleaner) and have nothing but respect for the guy's programming abilities.
We have all enjoyed the luxury of using his apps for free for a long while. I think that congratulations are in order and he can finally reap some financial reward for the many thousand hours of coding that he has put in.
Well done Jouni.
PS if there is any future beta testing to be done I'd be happy to help.
Keep up the good work.
Andy Dean
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Total Posts: 20 | Joined Nov. 2002 | Posted on: 5:26 pm on July 18, 2003 | IP
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jv16
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I'm quite sure I have never said that PT 1.4 was going to be freeware. If I have, it must have been an accident and I do apologize for that. I have never intented to lie.
The RC2 was time limited for the reason I have told, that is, to prevent users from using it as the final product. I didn't want to get feedback about the RCs for a long time, especially because the final version was going to be time limited shareware.
And I would like to point out that I didn't do this because I wanted to make money. I did this because it was the only way to continue the development. As you might know, developing the program takes a lot of my time. I'm a full time student doing my bachelor of engineering studies, also in the summer. If the development would have stayed as a hobby I would have sooner or later have to radically decrease the time I spent with it because of my studies. And after all, I doubt that many of you would be willing to work many years for free either.
Also, I do live in my on place, I have bills to pay and food to buy. I love the job I do and I like the PowerTools program very much. This was the only way to continue the work.
And, as a thanks from me all the beta testers, software translators and other people who have helped me have received a free personal license a few hours ago. This policy will also continue in the future, beta test or translate the program and you will get a free license.
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Total Posts: 1044 | Joined Oct. 2001 | Posted on: 6:18 pm on July 18, 2003 | IP
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Tom121
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However, you should have discussed it before. I'm not sure if your moderators had a clue but they sort of said the same...anyway in my opinion it would have been better to put a donation button on your website and keep it free. This way you might even get more out of it, because people feel sorry and donate something to the 'poor' programmer. People who don't want to donate won't pay for it now neither. Some people who would donate something may walk away because they don't even try software they have to pay for (because they will never learn to appreciate it). Others, would be willing to donate a small amount, but won't pay the full amount, so now you lost them as well.
Also, the reason why RegCleaner became successful was because of the fact that it was free. And since jv16 was sort of the new release of it and it was free people would just use it. I don't think there are many awards for commercial software...otherwise Microsoft would always win since you get the most features for a fairly small price (because so many people are using it).
You know the websites where people can rate downloads? Jv16 had always around 90% positive feedback. But it dropped to 60% now because of the fact that you have to pay for it and the people are pissed.
But still, I want to wish you good luck with your program . I hope everything will work out for you. Maybe you will change your strategy soon 
(Edited by Tom121 at 6:49 pm on July 18, 2003)
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Total Posts: 51 | Joined May 2003 | Posted on: 6:47 pm on July 18, 2003 | IP
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siliconman01
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jv16 has made a business decision which in my opinion is a good and sound business decision that benefits not only him for his expertise and talents, but us as users because it encourages further development, enhancements and hopefully the long term availability of this software.
I have used jv16 PowerTools for quite a while now. It is an excellent utility that is part of my personal strategy for maintaining my home computer and one I plan to continue to incorporate along with other tools and utilities that I select based on how beneficial they are to my system...not at the encouragement of others, but of my choice...my decision. If it is free or not is not the key criteria for this decision.
I have always been uneasy about becoming attached to free software (look at what happened to Gladiator Anti-Virus after several months of beta testing, many hours of downloading/testing and going through system crashes, etc., during testing plus even donations). No developer can sustain their efforts free of charge unless there is some other source of income or support. It just ain't logical to expect this long term.
What I'm saying is just my opinion obviously and not an effort to antagonize anyone...recognizing there are two or more sides to almost any issue. I too had the opinion that the new release was going to be free, but I kept thinking to myself "WHY" and "HOW"...so I am not surprised.
Keep up the good work, jv16.... and think long term for us users. Consider how to keep it going after school is over and in your overall career direction decisions. I'd like to see jv16 PowerTools around and fully functional when the next two or three Windows upgrades are issued!
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Dell Dimension 8200,Windows XP-SP1 Home, 1.5gb DRAM, 80gb HD,NAV/NIS 2003, TDS/WG/PE,
TH, SpyBot,SWB,Adaware,HiJackThis,jv16PowerTools, TuneUp, Ace Utilities, RegVac
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